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Post by polofan on Jun 1, 2024 16:50:31 GMT -8
Starting a thread for Quicksilver Tournament the weekend before JO's. Does anyone have more information other than dates? What age groups? What international teams are coming?
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 2, 2024 12:17:04 GMT -8
Here's what I've seen on teams sites. Looks to be at least boys 12U-18U.
Daily Format:
· Thursday – 4pm, 5:10pm, 6:20pm, 7:30pm
· Friday – 8am, 9:10am, 10:20am, 11:30am. (Break from 12:40pm-2:30pm) 2:30pm, 3:40pm, 4:50pm, 6pm
· Saturday - 8am, 9:10am, 10:20am, 11:30am. (Break from 12:40pm-2:30pm) 2:30pm, 3:40pm, 4:50pm, 6pm
· Sunday – 9am, 10:10am, 11:20am, 12:30pm
Gate Fee:
$55 for all 4 days - $35 for Final Day
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Post by rolled on Jun 3, 2024 14:39:04 GMT -8
I have not seen much info posted; I heard it was an expensive tourney. I did see a commercial for it when I was watching the last weekend of 18u So Cal Futures. It listed a bunch of teams signed up, but I did not see any international teams at least did not notice any.
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Post by rolled on Jun 3, 2024 15:21:50 GMT -8
I went back and watched it again. looks to me that there is one "international all-stars" team. Las Vegas who if I remember correctly had a ton of internationals on their JO team last year but are now limited to only 2 internationals. Also, CT premier who had 4 kids from the Dutch National team with them last year are entered. So, it seems to be an outlet for those same international players to come over and play in front of our college coaches.
Channel Islands United, 680, CC United, San Jose Express, LAMO, Los Al, Elite, La jolla, SD shores, Vegas, Trojan, Mission, Newport, Patriot, SF Polo, Vanguard, CT Premier, LA Premier, International All Stars. does not say what age groups for each so who knows until the schedule comes out.
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Post by gibson14 on Jul 2, 2024 14:19:21 GMT -8
I think this is a huge mistake for teams to play all these days/games 5 days before JOs. Fatigue and injury risk seems unnecessarily high.
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Post by thewaterpolosopher on Jul 5, 2024 5:31:36 GMT -8
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Post by gibson14 on Jul 5, 2024 10:51:51 GMT -8
from the write-up "Hopefully, the ...prize incentives..."
Is this confirmation of the rumors that club administrators are being compensated to play in this tournament?
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Post by thewaterpolosopher on Jul 5, 2024 11:43:31 GMT -8
There are cash prizes for the top three clubs at the 18u level. Those prizes are listed on the website for the tournament. I have no idea what you're trying to imply, but no club admin is being paid to play in the tournament unless their team places at the 18U level (as I clearly stated in the write up).
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Post by mellowmarco on Jul 5, 2024 11:49:36 GMT -8
Thanks for the write-up and I hope the tournament goes well. Kudos to whomever got Quicksliver to sign on as a sponsor. |
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Post by gibson14 on Jul 5, 2024 13:05:57 GMT -8
There are cash prizes for the top three clubs at the 18u level. Those prizes are listed on the website for the tournament. I have no idea what you're trying to imply, but no club admin is being paid to play in the tournament unless their team places at the 18U level (as I clearly stated in the write up).May I had heard that teams could be paid. I hadn't been to the website. I see it there now. This is the first time I've ever heard of youth sports teams being paid for performance. Maybe it happens all the time and I'll just assume that it won't get anyone into trouble with eligibility, but I'm no lawyer. I'm not sure I agree that paying teams will lead to the best tournament experience for anyone involved. |
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Post by Admin on Jul 8, 2024 11:48:08 GMT -8
Here are the 16s and 18s teams and how they did at Quals and potential JO seedings. I'm rooting for the tournament so Quicksilver stays supporting water polo. Move this earlier in the summer and I'd bet there would be more high-level teams accepting invites.
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18s |
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Team |
Qual Finisher |
JO Champ Seed |
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Team |
Qual Finisher |
JO Champ Seed |
TEAM VEGAS |
1 |
4 |
| SD SHORES |
1 |
4 |
TROJAN |
3 |
9 |
| CC UNITED |
1 |
7 |
SJ EXPRESS |
5 |
15 |
| CT PREMIER |
2 |
9 |
SAN FRANCISCO |
7 |
22 |
| LA JOLLA UNITED |
2 |
11 |
CHANNEL ISLANDS UNITED |
4 |
24 |
| 680 |
3 |
13 |
PATRIOT |
8 |
35 |
| VANGUARD |
5 |
15 |
CT PREMIER |
2 |
37 |
| CHANNEL ISLANDS UNITED |
3 |
16 |
IMPERIAL |
NA |
NA |
| IMPERIAL |
6 |
20 |
MIAMI |
3 |
NA |
| LAMORINDA |
5 |
21 | | LAMORINDA | 10 |
NA |
| SAN FRANCISCO |
6 |
24 | | LA JOLLA UNITED | 16 |
NA |
| SAN JOSE EXPRESS |
7 |
27 | | FRASIER VALLEY |
NA |
NA |
| TEAM VEGAS |
1 |
31 |
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| MISSION/LA PREMIER SENIORS |
NA |
NA |
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| CHARGERS |
14 |
NA |
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| PATRIOT |
12 |
NA |
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| ROUTE 66 |
6 |
NA |
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Post by blockedshot on Jul 9, 2024 6:33:31 GMT -8
There are cash prizes for the top three clubs at the 18u level. Those prizes are listed on the website for the tournament. I have no idea what you're trying to imply, but no club admin is being paid to play in the tournament unless their team places at the 18U level (as I clearly stated in the write up).May I had heard that teams could be paid. I hadn't been to the website. I see it there now. This is the first time I've ever heard of youth sports teams being paid for performance. Maybe it happens all the time and I'll just assume that it won't get anyone into trouble with eligibility, but I'm no lawyer. I'm not sure I agree that paying teams will lead to the best tournament experience for anyone involved. AWP has done the National State Challenge for years with a cash prize for first. It’s going to the club as I understand not the kids. Also. NIL. It’s not an issue anymore. |
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Post by Zad on Jul 12, 2024 18:20:52 GMT -8
The refereeing I saw today was mostly suspect. One or two really smart refs and several apparent rookies.
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Post by polopop32 on Jul 14, 2024 11:33:05 GMT -8
The refereeing I saw today was mostly suspect. One or two really smart refs and several apparent rookies. 100% these were not the select "best of the best" as promised. The amount of head contact, headbuts, and suit yanking allowed in 14u games was laughable...real injury concerns met with shoulder shrugs. Was BSing with 2 refs before a game and asked how they were selected and they said it was just put out as available work and they wanted the cool shirts. Much of the focus was on 16s and 18s at Woollett bit there wre table issues and no one looking at tickets elsewhere. Overall a great event but some bugs to work out for sure. |
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Post by Zad on Jul 15, 2024 9:10:21 GMT -8
In the games that I watched, there was a bit of a dance between the teams that were playing 100% to win and the others who were playing to not get hurt and maybe play a deeper bench before JOs. Reffing I saw on Sunday was mostly atrocious. The senior refs were obviously exasperated with their more junior partners.
I did like the quarter-final format.
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