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Post by Admin on May 22, 2024 17:32:25 GMT -8
Here are the Platinum Seedings based on last year's finishers for 18s, 16s, and 14s.
18s Place: Zone-# | 2023 Team 1: SPA-1 | NEWPORT BEACH 2: SPA-2 | SOCAL 3: SPA-3 | MISSION 4: PSW-1 | SD SHORES A 5: CCA-1 | LA PREMIER 6: NEZ-1 | GREENWICH BLUE 7: PAC-1 | 680 RED A 8: SPA-4 | SET 9: NEZ-2 | CT PREMIER 10: PAC-2 | ATHERTON 11: PSW-2 | LA JOLLA 12: CCA-2 | FOOTHILL RED 13: PAC-3 | SAN FRANCISCO A 14: PAC-4 | CC UNITED BLACK 15: SPA-5 | CDM 16: CCA-3 | TROJAN CARDINAL 17: PSW-3 | DEL MAR 18: CEN-1 | ARWPC BLUE 19: CCA-4 | CIU GOLD A 20: SPA-6 | LEGACY 21: PAC-5 | STANFORD RED A 22: SPA-7 | VANGUARD 23: CCA-5 | PRIDE
24: CCA-6 | ROSE BOWL Assuming it will be PAC-6
16S 1: CCA-1 | LA PREMIER 2: SPA-1 | MISSION A 3: PSW-1 | SD SHORES A 4: MTN-1 | TEAM VEGAS 5: PAC-1 | CC UNITED BLACK A 6: CCA-2 | TROJAN CARDINAL 7: PSW-2 | DEL MAR A 8: PAC-2 | 680 RED A 9: CCA-3 | PRIDE BLACK 10: NEZ-1 | GREENWICH BLUE 11: SPA-2 | SOCAL BLACK 12: PAC-3 | LAMORINDA A 13: SPA-3 | NEWPORT BEACH 14: PAC-4 | SAN FRANCISCO A 15: PAC-5 | STANFORD RED A 16: SWZ-1 | THUNDER 17: PAC-6 | DIABLO A 18: SPA-4 | NORTH IRVINE BLACK A 19: PSW-3 | LA JOLLA A 20: SPA-5 | IMPERIAL LIME A 21: CEN-1 | ARWPC BLUE 22: PAC-7 | SAN JOSE FOUNDATION A 23: SPA-6 | CHAWP WHITE A 24: CCA-4 | FOOTHILL RED A
14s Place: Zone-# | 2023 Team 1: PSW-1 | DEL MAR A 2: PSW-2 | SD SHORES A 3: SPA-1 | VANGUARD BLUE A 4: PAC-1 | CC UNITED BLACK 5: PAC-2 | STANFORD RED A 6: PAC-3 | LAMORINDA A 7: SPA-2 | SOCAL BLACK A 8: SPA-3 | PATRIOT 9: SPA-4 | ORANGE COUNTY WPC 10: CCA-1 | LA PREMIER 11: PAC-4 | SHAQ 12: MTN-1 | TEAM VEGAS 13: CCA-2 | CIU GOLD A 14: NEZ-1 | GREENWICH BLUE 15: CCA-3 | LB SHORE RED 16: CCA-4 | COMMERCE 17: SPA-5 | NORTH IRVINE BLACK A 18: PSW-3 | CARLSBAD BLACK 19: PAC-5 | SAN FRANCISCO A 20: HAW-1 | OAHU KAI 21: CEN-1 | ROYAL 559 BLACK 22: PSW-4 | LA JOLLA A 23: SWZ-1 | VIPER PIGEON BLUE 24: CEN-2 | SAND CANYON
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Post by Admin on May 30, 2024 8:21:28 GMT -8
Here are the potential Platinum Seedings based on last year's finishers for 18s and 16s and this years Quals.
18s Place: Zone-# | 2024 Team 1: SPA-1 | MISSION WHITE 2: SPA-2 | NEWPORT BEACH 3: SPA-3 | MISSION BLACK 4: PSW-1 | 5: CCA-1 | LA PREMIER 6: NEZ-1 | 7: PAC-1 | CC UNITED A 8: SPA-4 | SOCAL 9: NEZ-2 | 10: PAC-2 | STANFORD A 11: PSW-2 | 12: CCA-2 | TROJAN CARDINAL 13: PAC-3 | 680 A 14: PAC-4 | ATHERTON 15: SPA-5 | VANGUARD 16: CCA-3 | CIU GOLD 17: PSW-3 | 18: CEN-1 | KING ELITE 19: CCA-4 | PRIDE 20: SPA-6 | IMPERIAL 21: PAC-5 | LAMORINDA 22: SPA-7 | MONARCHY 23: CCA-5 | SOUTH COAST RED 24: PAC-6 | SAN FRANCISCO 25: PNW-1 | 26: CEN-2 | CLOVIS A 27: PAC-7 | SAN JOSE EXPRESS A 28: PAC-8 | SAN JOSE FOUNDATION 29: CEN-3 | BIG VALLEY 30: MID-1 | 31: MTN-1 | 32: MTN-2 | 33: CEN-4 | CAL REP 34: PSW-4 | 35: SWZ-1 | PEGASUS 36: CEN-5 | CLOVIS RED 37: SWZ-2 | THUNDER BLACK 38: MID-2 | 39: MID-3 | 40: PNW-2 | 41: PNW-3 | 42: MID-4 | 43: SWZ-3 | ALAMO AREA 44: PAC-9 | SHAQ 45: PNW-4 | 46: MID-5 | 47: MID-6 | 48: SEZ-1 |
16S 1: CCA:1 | SHORE AQUATICS 2: SPA:1 | NEWPORT BEACH 3: PSW:1 | 4: MTN:1 | 5: PAC:1 | DIABLO 6: CCA:2 | FOOTHILL RED 7: PSW:2 | 8: PAC:2 | CC UNITED A 9: CCA:3 | TROJAN CARDINAL 10: NEZ:1 | 11: SPA:2 | SOCAL BLACK 12: PAC:3 | STANFORD A 13: SPA:3 | ORANGE COUNTY WPC 14: PAC:4 | NORCAL A 15: PAC:5 | SAN JOSE EXPRESS A 16: SWZ:1 | THUNDER BLACK 17: PAC:6 | ATHERTON 18: SPA:4 | MISSION BLACK 19: PSW:3 | 20: SPA:5 | SAND CANYON 21: CEN:1 | CLOVIS A 22: PAC:7 | SAN FRANCISCO A 23: SPA:6 | CDM 24: CCA:4 | CIU GOLD 25: PSW:4 | 26: CCA:5 | LA PREMIER 27: PAC:8 | SHAQ A 28: CCA:6 | COMMERCE 29: SPA:7 | CHAWP WHITE 30: CEN:2 | ARWPC BLUE 31: PNW:1 | 32: CEN:3 | PRAETORIAN 33: SWZ:2 | LONGHORN 34: MTN:2 | 35: SPA:8 | PATRIOT NAVY 36: HAW:1 | 37: NEZ:2 | 38: SWZ:3 | MAVERICKS 39: CEN:4 | BIG VALLEY 40: CEN:5 | CAL REP 41: PNW:2 | 42: MID:1 | 43: MID:2 | 44: MTN:3 | 45: PNW:3 | 46: MID:3 | 47: SEZ:1 | 48: MID:4 |
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Post by bayareawapofan on May 31, 2024 14:46:42 GMT -8
This is great, thanks for sharing
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Post by Zad on Jun 4, 2024 10:23:14 GMT -8
We don't know much yet, but from this limited information and coincidentally, for 16u, it looks like the winner of LB/CIU will play the winner of Trojan/Thunder on day 2. Whatever will Foothill do?
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 4, 2024 13:42:56 GMT -8
We don't know much yet, but from this limited information and coincidentally, for 16u, it looks like the winner of LB/CIU will play the winner of Trojan/Thunder on day 2. Whatever will Foothill do? The uncertainty must be killing them.
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Post by rolled on Jun 5, 2024 11:36:41 GMT -8
You can take route 66 off the list. Coastal zone did not receive any extra championship spots in the new allocation that just came out today. Rough for coastal zone who had 6 in the top 24 last year, the only other zone with SPA zone to have every qualified team for Championship make the platinum level. Actually, you need to adjust your seeding as legacy was SPA not PAC. PAC gets 8 spots but only had 5 in the top 24 last year.
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Post by Zad on Jun 5, 2024 12:53:20 GMT -8
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 5, 2024 13:11:51 GMT -8
SESSION 1 | CEN | CCA | MID | MTN | NEZ | PNW | PSW | PAC | SEZ | SPA | SWZ | HAW | 10U Boys (5 v 5) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 5 | 6 | 0 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 13 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 12U Boys (6 v 6) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 4 | 10 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 6 | 10 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 1 | Classic | 0 | 11 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 4 | 14 | 0 | 16 | 0 | 0 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 14U Boys (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 4 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 3 | 2 | Classic | 5 | 8 | 3 | 0 | 4 | 4 | 5 | 7 | 0 | 8 | 2 | 2 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 16U Boys (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 5 | 6 | 4 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 3 | 6 | 3 | 1 | Classic | 5 | 7 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 9 | 1 | 7 | 3 | 1 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 18U Boys (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 5 | 5 | 5 | 3 | 3 | 2 | 4 | 8 | 1 | 7 | 4 | 1 | Classic | 7 | 7 | 1 | 1 | 3 | 4 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 9 | 2 | 0 |
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 5, 2024 13:18:53 GMT -8
SESSION 2 | CEN | CCA | MID | MTN | NEZ | PNW | PSW | PAC | SEZ | SPA | SWZ | HAW | 10U Girls (5 v 5) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 1 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 0 | 1 | 7 | 0 | 4 | 0 | 0 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 10U Mixed (5 v 5) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 6 | 14 | 2 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 7 | 9 | 0 | 10 | 0 | 2 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 12U Girls (6 v 6) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 6 | 8 | 1 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 6 | 12 | 0 | 10 | 1 | 2 | Classic | 0 | 5 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 0 | 1 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 0 | 0 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 12U Mixed (6 v 6) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 10 | 9 | 2 | 2 | 2 | 4 | 4 | 8 | 0 | 1 | 1 | 1 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 14U Girls (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 6 | 7 | 3 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 8 | 2 | 2 | Classic | 4 | 9 | 0 | 0 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 12 | 0 | 6 | 1 | 0 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 16U Girls (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 5 | 7 | 4 | 2 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 10 | 0 | 7 | 3 | 1 | Classic | 8 | 9 | 2 | 0 | 3 | 1 | 4 | 13 | 0 | 7 | 0 | 1 |
| | | | | | | | | | | | | 18U Girls (7 v 7) | | | | | | | | | | | | | Championship | 6 | 6 | 5 | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 8 | 2 | 6 | 3 | 2 | Classic | 9 | 10 | 3 | 0 | 3 | 4 | 2 | 8 | 0 | 6 | 0 | 0 | |
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Post by Zad on Jun 5, 2024 21:04:52 GMT -8
Rough for coastal zone who had 6 in the top 24 last year, the only other zone with SPA zone to have every qualified team for Championship make the platinum level. I think there is a pretty big gap in 18s between LA Premier and Trojan at the top of coastal and the rest of that zone. Five may be the right number for them in championship. Does PAC get so many across the board because JO's is in northern california this year?
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Post by rolled on Jun 6, 2024 8:39:30 GMT -8
Rough for coastal zone who had 6 in the top 24 last year, the only other zone with SPA zone to have every qualified team for Championship make the platinum level. I think there is a pretty big gap in 18s between LA Premier and Trojan at the top of coastal and the rest of that zone. Five may be the right number for them in championship. Does PAC get so many across the board because JO's is in northern california this year? With respect, in Futures So Cal, 5 of the 10 teams that qualified for D1 super finals are from the coastal zone and the team that just missed out is coastal zone. PV, Trojan, Pride, LA Premier, CIU are all Coastal. In the final seeding game La Premier beat CIU by 2 points, that does not seem like a large gap! Joining them is Mission, Newport, Socal and Vaguard from the So Pac, with the only SD team to make it is SD Shores. What 5 teams from the Midwest would beat SouthCoast, foothill or rout 66? As far as JO's the rules are clear, it is based off clubs in the zone and how many sign up for quals in that zone. But, as far as to you comment goes, it is a bit off.
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Post by Zad on Jun 6, 2024 10:50:20 GMT -8
I'm not saying that the coastal teams in classic couldn't beat the teams from the midwest or other zones. A fact of life at JOs is that it's not necessarily the 48 best teams that make championship. The powers that be have decided that is the best way to grow the game. It does seem that the coastal zone is getting squeezed more than sopac or pacific to accommodate other zones. 4 of 16 teams from coastal didn't make the tourney. Once we see the other quals, we will know if that 25% is out of the ordinary.
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Post by norcal on Jun 6, 2024 13:40:56 GMT -8
The number of JO spots for each zone is proportional to the number of registered USA Water Polo players, I think.
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 24, 2024 9:45:01 GMT -8
Here is the potential bracket for 18s A | B | C | D | E | F | 1-MISSION WHITE | 2-NEWPORT BEACH | 3-MISSION BLACK | 4-SHORES BLACK | 5-LA PREMIER | 6-NEZ 1 | 24-SAN FRANCISCO | 23-SOUTH COAST RED | 22-MONARCHY | 21-LAMORINDA | 20-IMPERIAL | 19-PRIDE | 25-PNW 1 | 26-CLOVIS A | 27-SAN JOSE EXPRESS A | 28-SAN JOSE FOUNDATION | 29-BIG VALLEY | 30-MID 1 | 48-SEZ 1 | 47-MID 6 | 46-MID 5 | 45-PNW 4 | 44-SHAQ | 43-ALAMO AREA | G | H | I | J | K | L | 7-CC UNITED A | 8-SOCAL | 9-NEZ-2 | 10-STANFORD A | 11-LA JOLLA NAVY | 12-TROJAN CARDINAL | 18-KING ELITE | 17-DEL MAR | 16-CIU GOLD | 15-VANGUARD | 14-ATHERTON | 13-680 A | 31-MTN 1 | 32-MTN 2 | 33-CAL REP | 34-SHORES GOLD | 35-PEGASUS | 36-CLOVIS RED | 42-MID 4 | 41-PNW 3 | 40-PNW 2 | 39-MID 3 | 38-MID 2 | 37-THUNDER BLACK |
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Post by gibson14 on Jun 24, 2024 9:50:29 GMT -8
Here are the potential seedings for 16UB A | B | C | D | E | F | 1-SHORE AQUATICS | 2-NEWPORT BEACH | 3-DEL MAR A | 4-MTN 1 | 5-DIABLO | 6-FOOTHILL RED | 24-CIU GOLD | 23-CDM | 22-SAN FRANCISCO A | 21-CLOVIS A | 20-SAND CANYON | 19-CARLSBAD BLACK | 25-POWAY A | 26-LA PREMIER | 27-SHAQ A | 28-COMMERCE | 29-CHAWP WHITE | 30-ARWPC BLUE | 48-MID 4 | 47-SEZ 1 | 46-MID 3 | 45-PNW 3 | 44-MTN 3 | 43-MID 2 | G | H | I | J | K | L | 7-SD SHORES BLACK | 8-CC UNITED A | 9-TROJAN CARDINAL | 10-NEZ 1 | 11-SOCAL BLACK | 12-STANFORD A | 18-MISSION BLACK | 17-ATHERTON | 16-THUNDER BLACK | 15-SAN JOSE EXPRESS A | 14-NORCAL A | 13-ORANGE COUNTY WPC | 31-PNW 1 | 32-PRAETORIAN | 33-LONGHORN | 34-MTN 2 | 35-PATRIOT NAVY | 36-HAW 1 | 42-MID 1 | 41-PNW 2 | 40-CAL REP | 39-BIG VALLEY | 38-MAVERICKS | 37-NEZ 2 |
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